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Given the current situation between Enron and Arthur Andersen, what do you think is the proper role an accountant should play with his/her client?

With regards to Enron accounting scandal, blame can be placed both on Arthur Anderson and the entire accounting community that should be doing a far better job of regulating their own approved policies and procedures. CPA regulatory bodies should be "burning the midnight oil " and clean up their GAP rules before the government steps in and does it for them.

Bob Foersterling, BNí68
Senior vice president, Morgan Stanley


Arthur Andersen has a fiduciary responsibility to its client Enron, however, it also has the responsibility to advise management of illegal or improper accounting activities; and if not corrected to report them to the USG.

Cary Viktor, BNí68, GRí72
Director of industrial participation, Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control


The Enron/ Andersen fraud threatens to undermine the credibility of our capitalist system. The self-correcting mechanism of capitalism worked as capital markets punished Enron's shares effectively taking corrupt and inept managers out of the game. Capital markets have put future would-be fraudsters on alert by punishing the share prices of other companies employing aggressive accounting tactics. The proper role of an accountant and his/her client is the same as it was before the Enron debacle, which is to present a true and faithful picture of the company's income, assets, liabilities and cash flow to investors. When all the facts of this case are available it is likely that the evidence will show that the auditor and the management conspired to misrepresent the income, assets, liabilities and cash flow to investors. This will boil down to a simple case of fraud where the board was caught napping. There is no need to change the role of the accountant because changing the role will not protect investors against individuals who lack integrity.

Chris Faber
Hedge Fund Manager


The accounting profession has sold out. So much for it's vaunted ability to quantify business results! It's time for independence in auditing. The profession has got to put itself in the position of being willing to lose clients. If accounting results are too complex to be understood and audited, they should be discarded as worthless!

Chuck McDonald, BNí60
Retired vice president, Allied Group

 

The accounting profession has sold out. So much for it's vaunted ability to quantify business results! It's time for independence in auditing. The profession has got to put itself in the position of being willing to lose clients. If accounting results are too complex to be understood and audited, they should be discarded as worthless!

Chuck McDonald, BNí60
Retired vice president, Allied Group


The auditor should not be allowed to do consulting for the same company. Another change would be to limit the number of consecutive years that an accounting firm can audit a given company. Another problem is that frequently the client will hire an employee of the auditing firm. These situations allow too many opportunities for conflict of interest and not allow the auditing firm to be objective.

Don Bardonner, BNí57
Retired


I think the "public" in CPA needs to be reasserted in a way that makes the profession avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Unfortunately, when management intends to perpetuate a fraud (like Enron) the auditors become a scapegoat. To focus blame on the real cause, however, extra fees from other engagements essentially gives the audit firm an economic interest in the survival of the company, which is actually a greater stake than the shareholders (because of the creditor status of the claims). Audit functions should be limited to the guardianship role.

Dave Schulte, BNí83
Kansas City Equity Partners


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